How would one know this with a name like iLikeDIY? ! Could you perhaps put your gender in your signature? That would be so very helpful. Thanks!
Thanks for all the feedback. Any advice on aftercare products or barrier lotions/cream to use before applying make-up?
Hello let me be the subject of hair: I’m agree with electrol @ s that you say that if I could remove hair and I have only half the experience that most of you (15 years), when I was taught to me about neck some can resist hair epilation (LADIES AND GENTLEMEN … so we call Electrolysis FEFINITIVA) hehehehe, besides just have to think with logic, all hairs are:
thick, thin (hair), blond, black, etc, go through the same stages, are composed of the same, are strengthened by the same etc etc kill yyyyyyyyyy = EQUAL,
Hello let me be the subject of hair: I’m agree with electrol @ s that you say that if I could remove hair and I have only half the experience that most of you (15 years), when I was taught to me about neck some can resist hair epilation (LADIES AND GENTLEMEN … so we call Electrolysis FEFINITIVA) hehehehe, besides just have to think with logic, all hairs are:
thick, thin (hair), blond, black, etc, go through the same stages, are composed of the same, are strengthened by the same etc etc kill yyyyyyyyyy = EQUAL,
No not you too! I’m already missing Manteray don’t want to miss you too!
iLikeDIY, the debate enriches this forum. You have expressed your opinion with respect, and that is appreciated. The problem is that you have made a bold statement that is easily refutable. Dozens of users here have seen with their own eyes that the treatment in fine hairs (vellus, peach fuzz) is tremendously effective. You do not need the galvanic to kill them, a little heat for thermolysis is sufficient to coagulate a follicle so small. As James said, the key is to place the tip of the probe in the right place, and have sufficient autonomy to decide when the follicle has received enough. Many professionals leave this decision to the presets, and this is why they end up forcing out of the hair.
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I’m taking a break anyway! College & work is really eating at my time and i should be cutting back on ‘extra curricular’ activities.
But thank you both for the encouragement and trust me, i’ll be doing hair removal until i’m done.
I do not know how a client interprets this, but for me it is clear: call this Electrolysis is attacking my intelligence.
Attentive to minute 5.
Can you explain more?
Well, Danika, just about the reader learn to differentiate between what is an 100% effective treatment and one that is not. Of the five insertions that she does, in two of them this woman is forcing out the hair.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U205OKSrKAg&list=UUC9-eeB3Y_vk5cCAqcqWKxg&index=8
None of the hairs in this video comes out opposing any resistance. If any of the follicles has received a partial treatment, the needle be inserted again.
Kudos, you move like a machine. The plucking with the hand reminds me of a monkey for some reason.
Talented work, and a pretty electrologist?? Keep of the good work
Probably because of monkeys are removed their lice each other?. Wise creatures, who take advantage of their most primitive instincts to keep themselves clean.
I am copying and pasting both these posts because depilacionelectr (Josefa) has already said what I would like to say - that facial fuzz (whether blonde, black or bleached blonde) can experience close to 100% kill rate.
For an electrologist who is not experienced in the treatment of this kind of hair, I imagine it would be tough to kill and warrant a low kill rate, resulting in a prolonged amount of time on the table. Not to mention the risk of possible skin damage.
For an electrologist who understands and can perform the treatment of telogen hairs, aims for a kill with every hair treated, can actually see the hairs and follicles to make accurate insertions… these hairs can be removed as well as any others. Good equipment helps and definitely the IBP makes the process easier and less harsh on the skin, given that many of these follicles are very shallow.
I am living proof. I had dense but fine facial hair. It is originally black and I bleached it weekly. Bleaching helps the electrologist who treats only anangen since the roots will be black and those hairs can therefore be targeted, but not by much given that over 80% of present hairs are in telogen when the hair has been left untouched. For the electrologist who can treat all the hairs (Josefa) it was just as any other peach fuzz case. The clearance strategy was not appropriate (or probably safe). So we did about 6-7hrs over 3 days during September 2011 [beard area and neck] and then about 10-12 hours over the same area, over 4 days during September 2012. So a TTT thus far of 16-19 hours. I went from having a very obvious facial hair problem to now feeling confident and content that my peach fuzz is no different from a ‘regular’ woman. The follicles on my neck were so close together that many times, Josefa was removing two hairs at a time.
This post contains immediate “after” photos since I was showing the resulting skin reaction from using Laurier probes. I am linking it so that readers can see my facial hair.
http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/101636/stoppit_tidyup.html#Post101636
This is what my cheeks/neck used to look like. Only a fraction of the hair is showing up. A big problem for me was that when hairs reach telogen, they would become extremely long (more than 5mm), especially around the jawline. They would be very obvious, especially when I felt a chill and they would stick out! :crazy:
I am not the only traveling client to have had such work done. I believe that there were some others who have naturally blonde hair (i.e. Max1970) who also had excellent results treating this kind of hair.
izapem - I believe you are Kelly Morrissy? Are the Kelly tips named after yourself? If so, I hope you are taking advantage of your tip and garnering the excellent kill rate possible on mostly telogen facial fuzz.
I would also like to make a further comment that I don’t quite understand how such fine hairs can have a sheath large enough that it impedes removal of the hair from the follicle? Can someone explain?
As I have said countless times before in this forum. I have NEVER felt a ‘pop’, ‘pluck’ or any kind resistance during my time on Josefa’s table, including during the treatment of all these fine hairs.
I certainly understand what SJames means though, as when I was having my upper lip treated in London, hairs often displayed a tiny amount of resistance (as if there was a tiny struggle to get out of the follicle) or would make the little ‘pop’ noise/sensation. Undoubtedly a sign that the follicle has not been fully treated and it will produce a hair again.
There is no explanation possible because a fine hair has a root and a small sheath. This is precisely the problem with this type of hair. A target so small makes it very difficult to make a precise insertion. Let me give an example, in the shooting, the smaller the object, the harder it is to make an accurate shot. This is the real reason (not the dry root) that many electrologists not want to work in telogen.
Thank you Josefa.
And how could I forget these wonderful photos of before and after one year had passed!
http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/101366/depilacionelectr.html#Post101366