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#21

I normally remain silent when it comes to practice, however as you can all imagine my business all happens under powerful magnification. As a result I have several people that must have microscopes matched to them for our work. One thing I can tell you is just because a setup is great for one person does not mean it will even work for another.

Price and brand name have little to do with success in this matter although a quality lens is central to it.

I would advise you develop a thirst for testing…try everything available to you. Everyone’s eyes are different, when you hit the one for you, you’ll know it. The right one will pull your vision up to where you want it without effort. When you hit the right setup it will be easy to forget it’s there…And that’s the point, what you’re doing is delicate and tedious enough, no need to be distracted by the shortcomings of this piece of equipment.

My advice is try out everything you can. Reviews are good, but only YOUR eyes will tell the tale and this is one of the most important purchases you will make for your practice.

#22

Mike, You are absolutely right. That’s why i had both my loupes as well as my addon light in my office for a few weeks of extensive testing. And such a possibility is also determining the price of a product.

Testing phases or any other service is impossible if a product is sold to the lowest possible price. And that’s the case with that stuff from China.

Anyway - chances are quite good that even these cheap loupes are still a better solution than the comparatively priced clipon loups. For a start with low budget, as a backup, i.e. for occasional use (at least at present i would not like to afford another 1200 EUROs just in order to have the necessary backup of my visual equipment).

#23

Let me please take up this old thread. Meanwhile the cheap loupes arrived. At 3.5 X magnification, these are the more compact Galileo systems. The frames are made of plastic and look like fairly exact copies of the S-Frame of my Heine loupes.

And basically they confirm the “You don’t get what You don’t pay for” - as to be expected. Even if You buy from China.

The optical quality of the systems is surprisingly good. The loupes are very light and it is comfortable to use them.
There are two serious drawbacks:

a) the plastic parts seem very weak, especially the mechanics fastening the loupes on the frame. You have to be really careful not to break them.

aa) both my Eschenbach clips as well as some of the slightly more expensive products available from China as well (those Kepler systems for 2.5 the price i paid) appear to be more solid.

b) there is no possibility to add an optical correction for the eyes. Something one can easily live with if the eyes are more or less equally good or bad. But if Your visuals differ by two dioptres You get sharp pictures at different working distances.

My conclusions:

these loupes are ok for occasional use (that’s why i bought these as a supplement to my good ones).
They should be also ok as backups for a pair of good loupes. If our material existence depends on our business, we need a backup for every component in our tool chain.

If You are really careful (or buy two of these in order to have a backup - they are cheap enough) these loupes may even suffice to start a business as an electrologist or for DIYers. But You should start saving Your money for something better ASAP. IMO good visual equipment is more important than owning the super duper high tech epilation machine.

#24

[color:#006600]Beate_r,

I was following this thread, but wanted to ask; when you say “the cheap one’s arrived” Where did you order from? I’m curious to know as I may be upgrading from Med-Lites to something better in the near future.

Thanks.[/color]

#25

WHY ? cause your OTHER ARM is screaming for attention?!! HA HA HAHA black and white this time buddy!

#26

@Mantaray: i ordered through ebay from one of the vendors in China. Chose the cheapest among those offering loupes which were obviously identical. My feeling is that this cheap loupe is not an upgrade to the Med-Lites, however. The real upgrade would be that one: http://www.mediquipsurgical.com/bilo.html (Mine is the HRP with the S-Frame).
Seeing the prices i would not be surprised if a cheaper verdor might be found after some searching.

#27

I’m wondering beate, if you happen to be around if you might post an update on this thread?

I recently also ordered one of the many chinese “kits” with a rechargeable light from a chinese supplier. Act of desparation at this point, since it was taking several months to afford a microscope. I went with a 3.5 x 420 mm focal length (I have long arms) . It’s actually the second time I ordered from different suppliers, the first one I had to force a refund after a month and a half of them not arriving and no valid tracking number. The replacements seem to have shipped out from another supplier also in china so we’ll see if they actually get here. In the meantime, I’m interested to see how you made out with yours.

Seana