Just tried the blend and WOW!

It is surprising to see these types plying their ancient trade and being supported by organizations that we trust. Might I encourage the professionals here to review the material on Naomi Tickle and inform the AEA about your opinions on this type of speaker. It is easy to learn more by checking (see below); this physiognamy is now called personology, but remains the same bunk; it is NOT a science!

See http://www.thefacereader.com for Tickle’s position, and then check physiognomy - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com and Physiognomy - Wikipedia to read about the “disproven theory based upon the idea that the study and judgement of a person’s outer appearance, primarily the face, may give insights into their character or personality”.

One notable critic (Skeptic's Dictionary and Refuge: Mass Media Bunk 8) asserts ‘And don’t forget the most important bit of wisdom that personology has to offer: “Short-legged people like to run around, but long-legged people are content to be couch potatoes.” I’ve noticed that myself while watching the NBA.’

I am greatly surprised that she is associated with Emory University as an instructor…

But on a lighter note, would she support a personality change resulting from a physical one? Does botox in my lips make me “chatty”? If not, then I can “disguise” myself through cosmetic work (including hair removal?) and mask my inner self from the world. :grin:

Dear Tex, I actually asked Naomi about that and she says GENETICS supercedes plastic surgery.

Thank you for your post. The issue has become very important to me.

The AEA knows that having this speaker was not a good idea, believe me, and I don’t think they will invite her to any future meetings. There has been deep discussions about this on the AEA forum recently. Naomi Tickle has listed “Electrology” as one among the many groups she has spoken to on one internet site I saw.

How did Naomi receive your comments,Arlene, when you talked to her?

[b]Naomi is British, she is not American born.
I told her that this country is made up of immigrants, some who fled their homelands because of how “that” type of thinking effected society. I gave an example as to how face reading was used in Germany by the Nazi’s to substantiate Aryian supremacy. I told her that although we are not perfect in this country and we do get lost in commercialism, we try to teach our children not to judge a book by its cover.

She said something about how she presents to IBM and many other companies.

I have no doubt that companies will hire speakers who will help their employees increase sales. I never followed it up with anyone to see if putting her viewpoints into action does indeed increase sales. I just know that I will not use her technique because it offends my idealism.[/b]

[i]The following is a passage from Wikipedia
"Physiognomy
Physiognomy (Gk. physis, nature and gnomon, judge, interpreter) is a theory based upon the idea that the study and judgement of a person’s outer appearance, primarily the face, may give insights into their character or personality. The term physiognomy is also used to refer to the general appearance of a person, object, or terrain, without reference to its underlying or scientific characteristics.

This article will deal with physiognomy as a theory of character evaluation that may produce a set of correlations that do not always evidence themselves in the general population. Physiognomy is not a strict science, but rather a method of analysis that indicates a variety of correlations in its subjects. Again, it is not always accurate when applied to the broad population. For this reason, physiognomy is not used as the basis of biological or psychological theory. That application of its ideas is folk science or pseudoscience and, in the past, has been used, along with other forms of scientific racism, to promote discriminatory ideas.

The word was in common use in Middle English as fisnamy or visnomy (as in the Tale of Beryn, a 15th Century sequel to the Canterbury Tales: “I knowe wele by thy fisnamy, thy kynd it were to stele”). Its validity was once widely accepted, and it was taught in universities until the time of Henry VIII of England, who outlawed it (along with “Palmestrye”) in 1531[1]. Around this time, scholastic leaders settled on the more erudite Greek form ‘physiognomy’ and began to discourage the whole concept of ‘fisnamy’.

The following types of physiognomy may be distinguished:

absolute predictive physiognomy, in which there are believed to be invariable 100% correlations between physical features (especially facial features) and character traits; this has been disproven
scientific correlation physiognomy, in which there are believed to be rough statistical correlations between physical features (especially facial features) and character traits due to a person’s physical preferences that are caused by corresponding character traits, such that gene mixing causes the correlations; this type of physiognomy is therefore allegedly based on genetic determinism of character. Although this type of physiognomy has generally been disproven as well, the idea has been revived as personology. The main explanation of personology, much of which is also considered pseudoscientific by mainsteam scientists, is that in general biology, different physical makeups correlate with different behaviours. For example, an illegal drug user often has a gaunt/desperate appearance, people who appear frail are unlikely to be demanding and more generally a life of smiling or frowning may leave a physical mark (especially on older people)." [/i]