help comrades, please

Professionals Only! Electrologist to Electrologist (pros only)
#21

Synchro is not that complicated and I don’t think too deeply about the mechanics and calculations of it all. It just works. Simplify and use it with the same principles that apply with all modalities. Start low and creep up until the hair releases without traction. Watch the skin. The number of pulses can be calculated with a formula, but you dont have to know the pulses, unless you want to be amazed. This modality is a “bomb” for thick hairs. I use it for thin hairs, too! Regrowth is practically nil and if there is some regrowth in a couple months, the hairs are Minnie Mouse size hairs, maybe smaller.

Cherrytree, this modality is only for the Apilus Platinum or it can be added to the Apilus Pure.

#22

Thanks Dee.
I learn new stuff every time i revisit my Apilus manual-which is often - and I’ve had it for years - so i suppose you could say I don’t address the technicals full on either. I use the tools and assess them closely as I go forming opinions and preferences. I am saving up for an upgrade as we speak. I really love my machine but Platinum speak on Hairtell really makes a person want one. Not too long now, I hope.
Junex

#23

Actually, when one uses Synchro, one can feel the same sort of “dropping the probe” one feels when using blend. There is surely something other than the cumulative effect of one pulse. This is just one other thing in electrolysis that is hard to explain, but much easier to feel when one gets a guided tour of the modality with a hands on demonstration.

#24

June, I just read this thread with sympathy. You must have been devastated. But vellus hairs are so close to the surface of the skin, I’m at a loss myself to imagine what would be suitable to move them without skin damage.
Josefa is right we too have the right to refuse to treat someone. Actually, I think she was very unfair on you and was looking for something to complain about.
When she comes back, realising how well qualified you are, you can always show her the door!

#25

Oh sweet, she has never been back but this is a small town and i see her from time to time - i always greet her with a confident nod and hello.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I have learned a lot since then too, lets not forget, so she may have been right to doubt.

I regularly treat what I call ‘Q tip’ hairs Dolly. The vellus, fair, shallow stuff.
They are little rascals but i find that if i grasp a small bunch and give them a gentle lift against the growth direction, that gives me a wee, tiny blanche - just enough to ‘mark’ out where they all are and then i zap them with a Laurier 4 or 5 on MicroFlash keeping the needle moving in the follicle and only going in to a depth of about 2mm. Skin suffers not a bit and hairs are 95% butter balls ie they slide out like knife thru butter. I would dearly love to conquer these rascals 100% however, so I’m ordering some Kelly tips for next time. Can’t wait actually!
Junex

#26

The Kelly tip 4 and 5 prototypes are just now being finished June. We’ve had great results from the Kelly 2’s and the final test size for the 3’s will go out this week.

#27

Can I be cheeky enough to ask for some please? I know that my supplier (Philomena) hasn’t got any Kellys.
Junex

#28

PM me a mailing addy. We just now put them in production so they’ll make it to the UK before long :wink:

#29

The more I read the more questions I have. I am currently wearing a very confused look on my face.

Am I right in assuming that level 9 is high, what program and what els are we talking about exactly?

I know on the platinum the lowest els at 9 are in the upper lip program and this comes in at 255els (insulated needle). I know it’s a different machine and modality but I’ve checked pico against micro before and the els are the same on the same settings…

2 or 3 pulses, keeping the probe moving and only inserting to 2mm and skin is ok?

Why would you use a 4 or a 5 on vellus hair? Surely a 2 would be a better fit and the exposed tip would be better suited to a follicle of this depth? You would also have the advantage of the point effect of the smaller needle which would pinpoint the energy even more thereby keeping it more confined and within the follicle?
This is very much a question because at this point I feel my own thinking is flawed because nobody else has picked up on this yet… Everyone please jump in and give your opinion, the more the better…

I’ve given hairs a little tug before to better work out exactly where they are located but it’s a long way from ideal and I can’t imagine doing it effectively on more than one hair at a time? You don’t need to do it when you can actually see what you are doing?

#30

If you do not want to use a sophisticated system of magnification, there is an old trick to help you locate the mouth of the follicles “vellus type”.
Is to move a little light as to project a little shade on these hairs, so they shine. The follicle is just where the brightness is over, and that’s where you should insert your probe.

#31

I think two posts are getting mixed up together Follizap.
The '9’setting was from apost about a year back and, as i said, i’ve learned a lot since then - Certainly no damage on skin but different hairs were being referred to.
I never need to go higher than about 6 (m-flash) now.

The ‘Q tip’ hairs I’m referring to are body, not face, and I think they are possibly post laser treatment hairs. Very, very shallow with only a white, powdery looking ‘bud’ at the root end.

Why would I use a 4 or 5 on the above hair -because that’s all i had! I tried it with caution and it was just beautiful.No one more surprised than me but happy me and happy client. The alternative to the IBP4/5 would have been Ballet 3 and we had already established that the IBP was giving a superior skin result.
I’ve only recently started using IBP’s and the supply chain here is a wee bit new still, also.

Josefa, I find that the above is great on the face but less great on body. Any further tips on fine, body hair. Not as blonde as above and much longer. They don’t have any ‘shine’ under the lamp.
Junex

#32

Hi Cherrytree, I would look at that situation with your lady as a blessing. She sounds like a high-maintance client? Seems like she had many years with her fav electrologist and for her to expect you to find the perfect setting within 5 hairs is rather unfair. With a new client sometimes the right setting can be found immediately and other times it takes alittle time.

I have had a couple picky clients that made me feel like my service was inferior. I would then figure I would never see them again…happily. Only for them to return in the future complaining of another place and wanting to stay with me. I would dread their appointments since it was dependant on their mood that day.

Thanks for the pic Josefa, sometimes I struggle to find the right lighting angle for those blonde hairs and that is a great visual aid.