Electrolysis timeline - need some support/advice!

[Janeybird]

Seana, nope never been to Canada you must have treated my evil twin lol

But truly, your comment gave me the chills. How many victims of bad electrology are walking around with the same story? I wish there were a way to reach out to ALL of them with the life-changing information that there IS a way forward. Why isn’t the miracle of electrolysis - and the truth about it, how skill-dependent it is -better known?

Happy New Year and thank you - and all the great electrologists out there - for everything you do to change the world for the better, both here at Hairtell and in real life

[Iluv2zap]

gosh, ok, well your story of traveling, getting accomodations etc struck a definite nerve, as did the treatment descriptiion, but alas , I’m not always right!I suppose there is a number of similar stories out there.
There’s a lot of qualities that contribute to a positive electrolysis experience such as yours. It takes genuine effort and sill to communicate the right concepts from the get go. To motivate that client to be RELIGEOUS about their treatment consistency, and to communicate the hair growth cycles and set expectations properly What will the person see, what can they expect as a immediate , and future result. We as contributing electrologists to hairtell gain from that experience, as much as you the consumer do. We learn strategies to get people to have less anxiety about electrolysis, good understanding of the hair cycles of growth, and of the effect that things like shaving, plucking can have on the removal process… In learning how to communicate these concepts, we build upon our strategies in explaining these same things to our clientele, and, here’s the icer, the better we convey this knowledge we create…better clients! Clients who will have success with the process, and will see it through.
As I write this, I’m a tiny bit bitter sweet, and this is why, I have a number of clients, who, all at the same time, are going to be done soon. Their treatment time and frequency is fast dwindling, because the job is nearing completion. They each have several things in common, they presented with the most significant of hair issues, they came religeously for weekly or less frequent appointments and never missed, and each, when I asked for it, stopped touching the darned hair, at all. No shaving, no plucking, nothing. And they are the first ones to finish up, every time. What gets them to that point, is a factor of a) the drive they have due to the issue at hand, and b) how well they understand the concepts explained previously. And every client, who follows this same recipe, sees success. ALL of them. And they are usally, th first ones to get there too.

Seana

[ldg]

Hey all - following up again to my initial post for an update. I know I religiously checked this forum when I was working through this journey, and I want to provide some clarity and reassurance for those who are still moving forward.

Flashback to two years ago when facial hair consumed my every thought, interaction, etc. It was truly debilitating. Two electrologists, 18 months, and 20ish appointments later, I am finally in a place of comfort with my entire body. I had to stop treatments back in February due to COVID-19, but my chin hair is practically non-existent now, and the hairs that do pop up are so light that I don’t even notice. Words of advice: it takes time, patience, and knowledge from a qualified and kind electrologist. You can do it!

[Deedra]

Thanks for confirming that it works and takes time, patience and knowledge from a qualified and kind electrologist. This will be the best money you have ever spent, but you probably already know that! I can’t begin to count how many new clients tell me that they have had electrolysis before and it didn’t work. Upon asking a few questions, I hear that they had two sessions and didn’t think it was working and stopped or that they started in January and their next appointment was in October. I also hear that they have tweezed only a few hairs. Hmmm? Really? That is not want I want to hear and it becomes quite evident why they are still suffering with hair.

Everything has to fall in place at the right time in the right way for this to work and it sounds like that is what happened for you. I am very happy for you and thanks for coming back to let us know!

[Iluv2zap]

ldg was one of our toughest cases of convincing her of this fact, and it’s nice to see you come back to confirm what we’ve been saying for years, that if you " stick with the program" dont tweeze, see a qualified electrologist and get enough treatment to remove ALL the hair in each growth cycle, you will see success. And right on schedule too. Good job! See it through to completion, but from the sounds of things you are on track to finish soon. Congratulations!

[ElectrolysisFanatic]

Noreen said it’s from her own experience And it’s her professional opinion. I do think
It’s a bit silly to get frustrated I’ve seen both of you professionals post some very informative information that I am sure is helping so many.

Thanks everyone

[dimitrov57]

You can read this post first:
Which electrolysis technique requires the minimum number of sessions?

[Iluv2zap]

Dimi is correct in his assertions above. Noreens opinion completely ignores cycles of growth and sets an expectation that cannot be achieved regardless of whether it’s opinion or even the modality the work is performed in. I generally shy away from replying to posts like this one, because colleagues like dimi or David, will set the record strait without being as invasive as I might myself be.

There’s no such thing as a “better modality” they all kill hair and leave beautiful results. Making claims to support your particular modality at the expense of others does the client, and the profession as a whole, a dis-service , and in particular this is something I see Noreen do quite a bit, but I dont feel it’s my place all the time to be the “bad girl” and point out the particular shortcomings of any particular statement, because honestly I will just come across as intolerant ( which I’m not) and I know that others will point the facts that dont quite ring true.
Modality wars have been a part of electrology as long as I can remember, and it will always be like that too. The truth however, is that all modalities are just a means to an end, with none better or worse than any other.

Seana

[Franco17]

Hi permanence , do you have your clinic in Sydney, Australia?

[permanence]

Yes. It is located in Dymocks building on level 3, 428 George st. Feel free to call in if you visit Sydney. Our website www.permanence.com.au will give you all the details

[Marlacewen]

Please help! I am in a situation where I am starting to do my own research as to why my almost exact year (of bimonthly hour visits) of electrolysis have not helped my chin hair. I donot know all the jargon but my Electrolysis’s machine has a counter on her machine and I am somewhere around 150-175 hairs-and it’s the same every other week. A Little background about me—after my last baby (she is 5 now) I went from seeing a few hairs to seeing more and more and would quickly pluck them as soon as I saw them. You don’t realize how many you have tho until you can no longer pluck! So finally last summer (2020) I began my electrolysis journey. I haven’t plucked since we began treatment but have occasionally shaved-but it was her suggestion and she said that would be ok. Anyhow I was so so excited! My electrolysis is a former nurse and trained locally on electrolysis from someone who did it for 30 years. I live In a state Where you donot have to be “certified”.

I have never felt like she doesn’t know what she is doing. I don’t feel a lot of pain, she is kind, and understanding. However, I can tell she is also beginning to wonder why we have not seen progress. The only progress I have seen is I started out going every week and now I go every other week. But that was the initial first month. So for 1 month I went every week and for 11 months-every other week. I go to my next appointment tomorrow and I just don’t understand why I haven’t seen hardly AnY progress. My last visit she mentioned changing some settings and including the option to make LYE? Again I don’t know more than the simple explanation of electrolysis. I just don’t want to keep going if somethings not right.

So a few things:
My OBGYN ordered me hormone tests (at my request) to see if something was out of wack hormonally-he said everything was normal.

When I hold the rod-it isn’t wet-not sure if that matters.

When she inserts the probe-it is in the hair follicle for about 3-5 seconds.

I donot usually feel a zap…but for some reason the right side of my chin is more sensitive and I can feel it there. No pain-just a little discomfort.

I live in an area where there aren’t many Electrolysises and would have to travel quite far to try another one.

Any suggestions? I am getting a little depressed about this journey! Please help!!

[Bono]

I don’t think I can offer-up any good suggestions for you. Let me say, however, that nearly all my clients initially experienced sub-standard treatments (laser or electrolysis). Last year, a client had spent $7,000+ with a licensed and “certified” electrologist who was also a past president of her State’s electrology association. I don’t think I have ever seen so many ingrown hairs (back) and several other post-op problems … the treatments were worthless. Having said that, credentials and licenses are lovely … however, electrolysis is a SKILL; not an academic subject. “Knowing” is not necessarily “doing” (properly). A water resource expert (with a PhD) might be able to formulate policy … but, sometimes you just need a good plumber!