can thin probes kill thick hair?

AND you have a FINE moustache to prove it too Dee Dee!

Why thank you, Michael.

I’m with Dee on this, the fattest probes possible. Only started using the Laurier IBP probes 3 years ago, after they were brought to my attention by Josefa. It’s amazing how large I can go even on the notorious Celtic fluff, massive improvement on results. As Micheal Bono suggests it’s not that electrologists using different methods are purposefully doing anything wrong they are just ill informed and there is a lack of progressive info around-though getting better due to this website and certain industry only Facebook pages. Previously when using thermolysis I would use a tiny size 0.03 or 0.04 of a certain brand and I would get permanent results but not in the same time frame as I do with Laurier.

Quite interesting to note that i switched to larger probe sizes immediately as soon as my visual equipment improved. Just today i did an upper lip with fine hairs and a #4 which is thicker than the hair i treated. In such a setting (untreated fine upper lip hair, mostly telogen) i do not see an advantage from the IBP anymore - the insertion depth is not deep enough to make use of the IBPs insulation. But i love Mike’s tapered probes for this kind of job (although i know well that i could achieve more or less the same quality with Ballet or Velona Gold - but i like the feeling of two piece probes).

Have you tried the Kelly tip for this application Beate ? The reduced tip is designed for just those follicles.

Actually i feel better with the tapered probes and pretty short signals in this situation (i’ve been working at a timing of 0.1 secs).

Moreover, to my understanding, the Kelly version is in average about one step thicker than the standard IBP of the same length.

Which does not reduce my preference to the IBP in most applications; however, there are a few situations where their special properties are not or not sufficiently an advantage.

No actually the Kellys are the same probe but the exposed tip lengths are about 30% shorter. They were specifically developed for shallow/vellus insertions. Kelly is experimenting with an even further reduction of the tip length. She actually had me make some .005’s with the .020" tip of the Kelly .002 They are showing surprising results.

A few months ago, I ordered 25 dozen of the size 6 IBP’s. I find many uses for them. Two days ago, I had a wonderful time using them on a woman’s legs. Some hairs were fine, some thick, some were telogens and the probe handled all the follicles well. One zap and the hair released nicely. I love the feel of a Laurier probe in my hand