If no allergy, I apply Betadine over treated area after Electrolysis. But I tell all clients of adverse effect for long-term use that betadine can thin the tissue & weaken the skin causing the skin to become more sensitive & susceptive to external irritants.
Anyone can commence on this whether it’s better to use Betadine or nothing insignificance if not using?
The test made by Josefa show a clear difference. Thank you for posting pictures, it helps a lot in understanding healing.
I can notice the Bepanthen was put where the hairs with more density and as a result, there is less inflammation on the area where the bepanthen was put!
This is a great test and the result speak by itself. When the product is applied, the skin inflammatory reaction is minimized compared with the area with nothing on it.
I have experienced myself the same benefits when using this cream on my own skin.
The only disadvantage of Bepanthen in my opinion, is the greasy sensation. But that is not a big deal.
Also, some people like to use Aloe-vera gel after electrolysis. I used it, but I don’t remeber how it affected my post treatment skin reaction.
The only thing I can tell you about Aloe Vera is that it is very very effective when you use it on sunburns. Last summer, I got very severe sunburns on my back, neck and shoulder. I was totally red. I bought real aloe vera leafs and I cut I in the middle in order to extract the gel. I applied it on the sunburns and in 2 days the redness almost disappeared and the pain too. If you are interested, you can look on YouTube how to use real aloe verra leaf on your skin. For my skin, it has been very positive to calm down my inflamation.
Well I guess people will see what they wanna see. I absolutely see no ‘‘clear difference’’, and I can personally find a reason why on the SLIGHT differences (if you can call it that).
I still think creams are useless, but I might need to at least look a little deeper, as I believe everyone can be quite subjective (me included).
I’ll do the test again in a month with everyone’s notes and opinions in mind!
Again, only looking for the truth, as I would love for creams to work, but would also like to convince people if they don’t…
I’ve also used aloe vera (the plant) after electro, at first I thought there was a difference but then I only used water and it had the same ‘‘cooling’’ effect.
Also, leaving aloe long enough on the skin made the area start to tingle (with electro treatments or not), I found it quite weird but never experimented further.
Aloe allergies are more common than most people think… I have t least 3 clients who react to aloe, so I dont use it on them.also a mother in law who is allergic, so I make sure to plant as many aloe plants around the house as possible.
Also a mother in law who is allergic, so I make sure to plant as many aloe plants around the house as possible. EXCELLENT!
Not allergic, I just hate the feeling of useless stuff on my skin : )
I think that zapmyface is looking for a magic result. With his statements, he will say that a product won’t work if there is not a magic result. But unfortunately for all of us it won’t happen!
If someone think that putting a product on a inflamatory area and expect the skin to be and looks like before electrolysis, this person will be disappointed, even if the test was done correctly.
I had nothing in my head before putting Bepanthen on my skin and I saw the difference. Less skin inflammation and no scabs formation. It didn’t expect it to works. And you know what ? I’m not a big fan of comsmetics products that I often think useless.
And no I don’t want to see anything I only make à statements based on the pictures I see on the test. And there is no doubt about it, there is clear difference. (Unless, i begin to have vision loss, which is very unlikely 
Well, what would be the point of applying a cream if not to have a good outcome… I fail to see the point of using a healing cream if the results are so disappointing (and I’m not concluding that there’s a difference yet).
Also, you could argue that in my test, the creamed area looks a tiny bit worse than the other side, and yet I attribute this to ‘‘randomness’’, maybe we should do the same with Josefa’s pictures and test further (I know I will).
I’ve already explained why the little differences we can maybe notice are not conclusive (at least for me), but I guess most people aren’t as ‘‘obsessed’’ as I am lol.
I do not understand this argument. The part without cream is redder and slightly more inflamed, although it is an obvious fact that there were fewer follicles treated. I do not see any randomness in that.
Inflammation is more evident in the lower side because a) fewer treated follicles (more spaced hairs), and b) because they were the last hairs treated during the session. However, if a few minutes were enough for the inflammation to decrease on the upper side, 24 hours should be enough for the lower side, do not you think?
Make no mistake, this is not “a theory”, it is a proven fact that the application of dressings on a wound prevents the formation of scabs.
This discussion could be extended until the day of final judgment, and we could both continue to play “amateur scientists”, but one of the most important premises for conducting any experiment is to get rid of preconceptions. Only then can you move forward.
You seem to imply that I have some hidden interest in advertising this or any other cream. Let me clarify that I have never sold a single product. I only sell my services. And I’ll tell you more, for some reason this cream is more expensive in Spain (twice as much), so some of my foreign customers bring it to me from the UK, France, or Germany. They know that, like everyone else, I pay for the product.
The pharmaceutical Bayer also markets Aspirin, a popular remedy that is extracted from willow bark. Are you also going to deny its effects on the cardiovascular system?
I never implied that you were selling a product. Actually, you seem very trustable and have given me great explications on other threads. However, I’ve learned to have an extreme skepticism over beauty-related subjects.
For example, I had my reservations about electrolysis in the first few months when I started, but then realized that it worked on me (proof), so now I’d fully recommend it to people!
This healing cream, on the other hand, is not the case (and a few others too).
1- My argument was that slight differences in colour wouldn’t indicate clear results since on my test the creamed area appeared more red, and on yours the opposite. Wouldn’t that mean the reactions could be a little random than expected?
2- I’ve never seen inflammation like that go away after only a few minutes but I’ll take your word for it. If this circled part https://imgur.com/a/wrZsu05 was last treated with relatively the same sparse hairs, why does it look pretty flat compared to the lower part after 24h? It had no cream on and yet the healing process worked just as well as the creamed area. This is where my ‘‘randomness’’ comes in.
3- Well, this is my next test then! Only plastic will be applied and it might shed light on the subject.
I could argue that most people have preconceptions about creams working since it’s well engrained in today’s society (or DNA as Michael likes to say), and I do about the opposite (rebel at heart). It wouldn’t really be an healthy discussion if only cream users/believers were doing the testing. And by creams, I mean healing/beauty ones. I have absolutely no issue saying that some other types of creams that I’ve tested work very well (for example EMLA).
There’s nothing scientific about this test, it’s more about hearsay and convenience, at least for me.
As you might have noticed, there are quite a few things that I ‘‘don’t like’’ about other people’s tests, but please don’t take it the wrong way, I could tell the same about mine too (which is why I wanna do it again).
Did you take more pictures to see the reaction after 2-3 days of cream use (or no use)? I ask because my whole area appeared to have the same overall ‘‘residual reactions’’ after those few days of testing, regardless of tested sides.
Another theory could be that the cream and/or plastic could’ve simply delayed the healing process. It would be interesting to see what creams and/or plastics do to an area if kept in CONSTANT occlusion (no air at all) for at the very least a few days to see if differences are more evident.
On the subject of post-treatment creams, somebody accused me of being either ignorant, or complacent. I told them, “I don’t know, and I don’t care!” LOL
Thing is, moisturizers minimize crust formation. Some do a better job than others. If people want to use safe products, I’m all for it. Sometimes I will apply various products myself. (I tend toward the prescription stuff … but that’s another issue.)
Nobody should make too much of this, but I’m happy to see the experimentation. Jossie’s photos were amazing and I think the cream being used is excellent. Safe enough for a baby … I’ll go with that!
Where I get nervous is when patients start putting on goofy stuff: herbs, heat/cold, “exfoliation,” vitamins: things that make healing worse. I had a client, a few years ago, who used some outrageous products that, for those who knew the story, made them laugh until tears. I can’t (won’t) relate the story … WAY to embarrassing. Just think: scalding hot banana peel that resulted in burns.
Basic philosophy: the KISS method: “Keep It Simple, Stupid!” I say, “Keep it Simple & Safe!”
WEALKING! THE CREAM RELIGION GOT TO YOU!
ME AND SEANA ARE NOW THE LAST BEACON OF HOPE.
Actually the more I look at the picture, the more I’m convinced that there’s no difference. I’m not going to explain myself as I’ll never be able to compete versus apparently everyone here. I wonder if the silent majority is seeing what I see. Am I insane?!
On the subject of creams and especially “Aloe” allow me to cloud it all a little bit for you.One must always ask, what is this crap I’m putting on my skin? Can I trust it to do what I want it to do?
Well the FDA has classified Aloe as neither a food or a drug. One of the more popular brands of Aloe is called “Fruit of the Earth” and it’s available in most walmarts here in canada, and Walmart, Target and CVS pharmacies in the US. It claims to be " 100% Gel" on the label, bit of misleading into making you think it’s 100 percent Aloe Vera . It Isnt! The chemical analysis chows large amounts of chemical thickeners, that just happen to be TOXIC when applied to the skin. Then there is this little tidbit:
So, Fruit of the Earth Contains none of the genetic markers of actual Aloe Vera. Zero. So, what’s in this stuff? How can I trust that I am putting actual, pure aloe vera on my skin?
I use the one from Healthy Planet, Lily of the desert, in my clinic in Ottawa. If I could grow enough of it, there is only one source for Aloe Vera I would trust, strait from the plant.
One must always question, what is this “Stuff” I’m putting on my skin to make it all better? Can I trust it? Do I know what it is? When dealing with anything not analysed by FDA( IE not a food or drug" then the answer, is overwhemingly, no.
Seana
That’s an entirely debate in itself (safe vs dangerous), one that I won’t even think about testing!
Yeah,
Like the cranberry juice that states, “100% pure juice!” (But actually it’s 90% apple juice). Like the Kraft Parmesan cheese says, “100% grated!” (Well, it is grated, but it’s not even Parmesan cheese at all.
The bull shitters are always going to be here. Interesting about Aloe.
WAY back in the early 1900s Helena Rubinstein had her exclusive salons in New York City. She offered her secret skin treatment that, she said, came from the tropical jungles of South America. Actually, it was aloe … and she had it grown in my City (Santa Barbara), on her friend’s acreage. Up near Westmont College, where the "jungles of S. America were located, you can still find the aloe growing wild.
What is it supposed to do exactly…? All I can read online is hopeful nonsense.
The cranberry is supposed to be good for the old prostate, and the Parmesan cheese just tastes good. Other than that, I don’t know nuttin’!
I meant the aloe.