Thank you for answering me 
After reading some sites, they say that SCARRING can occur up to 9 months after the treatment?
I’m so afraid…
How to know if i was overtreated? She tried a low current but she couldn’t have the hair.
Could you please tell me what kind of skin reaction can give me permanent scars? like theses: Here
Here are my cheeks 1 day after clearance:
The swelling has a little decreased compared to yersterday.
Your picture of your one day post treatment looks fine. I couldn’t help but notice that you have obviously NOT used tea tree oil on it, and it doesn’t look like you used aloe vera either.
How you get marks like the other picture is someone who is either overly aggressive with the treatment energy, and, or misses the follicle, or breaks the side wall of the follicle, and causes blow out of tissues surrounding the follicle.
since you don’t have any eschars on your face, I would not be worried for you yet. Just step up the post treatment to tea tree oil at night, and aloe vera during the day.
You’re right James (i only used what i have at home: a restorative skin cream. But i’m going to buy tee tree oil and which hazel for the next time, i trust you)
That’s funny because when she did the trial on me, the current was low and i couldn’t feel any “pain” but my hairs went out.
I had NO marks at all. Nothing!
And yesterday you know the story… but that should fade away within one week (it looks better and better)
It’s not the same person i forgot to say…
My question:
I didn’t feel from both any plucking sensation. I was just wondering which electrologist to choose:
I mean maybe the first one had enough current to release the hair but not to kill the dermal papillae?
Thank you as always for taking time to respond 
My argument is always that a practitioner should strive to find the “Zen” of eletrolysis, the “Tao” so to speak, where one rides the razor’s edge between just enough treatment, and not enough. Those who go overboard to “Make sure its dead” are inviting the possibility of unnecessary scabbing, scarring, and pain.
As some of the pictures shown here on the site long ago prove, many of my clients don’t look like they have had anything done when we are through.
Today aka Day 3 post traitment, when I took a shower i notice that some of the scabs are gone but instead i can see tiny holes where the needle was put…
As you can see from the picture: (the lightning is made to have a good sight on the holes, but they are far less noticeable)
Why holes? 
I’m really worried that it leaves scars and i will ask her to turn down the current…
Do your patients notice those holes during the healing phase?
PS: the black dots are according to me pieces of hair burnt i don’t worry about theses
In my opinion, there is overtreatment for an area as dangerous as the face. Is a dermatologist who is doing the job?
Space3000…IMHO, yes, you are being slightly overtreated.
That holes shouldn´t have popped out when the healing is on its way, but, don´t be scared because you aren´t going be scarred. It takes time, but with the propper skincare (sun avoidance, aloe vera, drink almost 1/2 gallon of water a day, etc) your faceskin will eventually heal.
Hmm, I would say maybe overtreatment. I had my whole face/neck done by James and didn’t ever get a scab and certainly not a hole! I was “under the needle” about 6 hours a day for 30 hours to get cleared. I hope this heals for you. J
its an esthetician from a well reviewed beauty center. she has 10 years of experience and she only does electrology here. the problem is my coarse hair and even with this current she had sometimes to try up to 3 times to release the hair… I will try another one because I dont want to end with holes instead of hairs.
just hope this will heal…
Space, it is very important, you should not remove the crust. You should not have shaved the area before a week. The problem I see in the picture, is the depth of the crusts. The crusts should have a thickness or depth of a piece of cigarette wrapping paper or perhaps as much of a Dina 4. Yours seem to have the thickness of half a grain of pepper. The superficial dermis should not be affected.
If I were you, apply a cream with 0.025% tretinoin in the affected area (RETIRIDES or similar), this will help repair damaged tissue.
what was wrong for the next time? the current or the fact she tried several times by hairs? do I have to start now tretinoin or let the skin heal before?
Many factors have influenced overtreatment, it could be an inappropriate choice of the thickness of the needle along with an excess of current intensity. The tension of the hands in the area is another factor, our hands must keep the area stretched to minimize unnecessary damage on the walls of the follicle.
This past Monday I did some work for a Spanish machine manufacturer. The work was to select suitable parameters for different hair types in different areas of skin. One test was done in the beard of a man of 20 years.
The first picture shows the area before the test.
Tretinoin should be applied now. Some dermatologists apply tretinoin in an area that will receive a skin graft in the future. This is to prepare the skin to receive the graft and the healing progressed satisfactorily. Tretinoin remove the horny layer (whose function is to protect), the cells divide more quickly to recover the shortfall. Therefore, healing is faster.
Oh my god that’s wonderful work! Do you know someone really good in france? i couldn’t find anyone on the dedicated topic…
You seem the closest to me but even with monthly appointments Paris-Malaga is not so cheap… But on the other hand i’m afraid to risk scarring once again and it may be worth the money
I don’t know what to do anymore…
By the way, even the deepest sore is not as deep a pepper ball (i think) , the picture is cheating… I would say it is < 1 mm, does that mean that only the epidermis has been affected? That’s a good point for the healing no?
Your skin will recover within a few months. I’m sure it will not be any scars. But you should not keep playing with fire in an area as visible as the face.
The side effects of the tretinoin are, peeling, redness and itching, but will help produce more collagen. It is also shown to improve acne scars, small surface wrinkles and stretch marks when they still have red or purple. You do not lose anything by trying.
Oh la la Paris! still all so expensive? I spent 10 years of my life in a village 60 kms from there, Hadancourt Le haut Clocher. What memories! (sigh)
Hi some good news!
It’s been 1 week now and im very surprised how well my skin has healed!
As you can see, there are some tiny pits left but everyday it’s going better and better you were right! 
I will try another electrologist though.
In about 3 days my face is going to be full of ingrown hairs haha or maybe not…
And for Paris yes it’s more expensive than ever…
It’s amazing how your skin has recovered. I’m glad, Space. You have a beautiful skin and perfect teeth. Take good care of both.
Why do you think that in a few days you will have an ingrown hairs? You’re using tweezers in the area of Electrolysis? If so you should not do this. Shave the area to prevent ingrown hairs. And not listen to those who say that shaving increases the thickness of the hairs. If your beard is not yet complete, thicken hair, whether or not you use tweezers.
Hi! Some good news
I had my second session done a few days ago! I didn’t want to risk scars once again so i decided to take an appointment in Malaga.
What a difference! She removed me a lot of hairs (more than the other one) but with NO skin damage.
As you can see from the pictures 48h post removal:
I had some swelling but my skin this time doesn’t have those holes where the hair was killed (just compare with my previous pictures)
The design may seem a little weird but some hair is going to regrow from the last plucking and from my first session to give something more natural.
I understand now why we can’t trust everybody for something so precise, even more for the face area…
Always expect some temporary skin manifestations. The least, the better, but we always hope for none . You are healing nicely and it does get better and better as the hairs count gets lower and the hair gets thinner. Space, I don’t see a link.
Oh, nevermind, it just appeared. The skin looks good. I see some flakiness and redness. What aftercare product(s) are you using, Space?
I just said that I was happy with my skin after this session
I use a cream called cicalfate (wich contains Cu and Zn) when i wake up and Tee tree oil at night (I’m in love with the smell of this oil 
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