A new electrolysis journey

Good point, LA.

Gosh, Josefa, Malaga is the place to be if you are an electrologist!

Hi:

I don’t find it tedious at all.

Actually I enjoy my time getting electrolysis done.

I get to chat with my electrologist and listen to music at the same time.

Now if I had an electrologist who didn’t talk or was totally boring then it would probably be very tedious.

Alicia

Alicia, see my previous post. It’s in the eye of the beholder. If the hair didn’t bother you, you would think twice about spending time and money going to your appointments no matter how nice your electrologist is. You’d probably spend it on massages or spas instead :wink:

Hi LAgirl:

It was a lifesaver for me too.

Even if its a necessity though it helps to be able to pass the
time in a somewhat enjoyable fashion. Having my portable music system and someone I enjoy talking with helps to take my mind off
the treatments themselves.

I have a small rechargeable speaker system which I bring along that will play from my ipod and a remote control for it.
It also helps that my electrologist likes my taste in music or
else I’d be torturing her with it!

Alicia

Freewheeling, the skin is recovering well, whether 100 follicles were treated as if they have tried 1000. The only difference is that inflammation is higher in the second case.
The ideal case is not having to return to the same follicle more than once. But in the case of this need, it will take about 8 or 10 weeks to see this hair. A complete set of adjacent follicles can be treated without risk to the skin always taken the correct measures of hygiene.

Dee, better if a convoy of electrologists all over the country. With a few extras for the area near the French border (you know that French women are most disadvantaged).

You think James would agree to lead the convoy?
I have a chance to convince him? some clue to bribe? :wink:

Freewheeling, la piel se recupera bien, tanto si se han tratado 100 folículos como si se han tratado 1000. La única diferencia es que la inflamación será mayor en el segundo caso.
El caso ideal es no tener que volver a tratar el mismo folículo más de una vez. Pero en el caso de esta necesidad, se tardarán unas 8 0 10 semanas en volver a ver este pelo. Un grupo completo de folículos adyacentes pueden ser tratados sin riesgo para la piel siempre que se tomen las correctas medidas de higiene.

Dee, mejor si es un convoy de electrólogos repartidos por todo el país. Con algunos extras para la zona cercana a la frontera con Francia (ya sabes que las mujeres francesas están más desamparadas).

Crees tú que James aceptaría liderar ese convoy?
tengo alguna oportunidad de convencerlo? alguna pista para sobornarlo?

Josefa

It’s tedious because of the money involved and the lack of guarantee that there will ever be results. If I could be sure that the hair would be gone soon then I wouldn’t mind, but at this point I get really dispirited when I’m over a year and almost $3000 in and still getting coarse hairs on my face the day after my last appointment.

That’s your situation, candela, related to what your electrologist can deliver with the setup she has and should in no way reflect the positive outcomes of other consumers who actually get full, permanent removal on several areas within a 9-18 month period coming nowhere close to $3,000.

You are dispirited. We know your story. On the other side, as we see here in posts frequently, there are many others that are ecstatic that they did electrolysis and they frequently say here and in my practice, “Why didn’t I do this a long time ago?!”
There is no way that electrolysis or LASER can get the hair off any faster than 9-18 months because of hair growth cycles. That’s a big hurdle that hair removal specialists need to be totally honest about with their clients. Couple that hurdle with poor technique or tools and then we get the “candela’s” of the world complaining because they are very tired and poor for all their effort. I suffer with you for your experience, but I know that there are better ways that would have pleased you in the end.

I will comment everytime I see posts like this. Electrolysis works and any hair that is not wanted can be “destroyed” permanently. Is it easy like taking candy away from a baby? Is it fast like the drive-thru at McDonalds? No. When I ask a client in the end was it worth the $1,299.99 they spent over a period of 9-18 months, they say, [size:17pt]“HELL,YES!”[/size]
(I need to stop cursing.)

Dee

candela - why don’t you travel to Dee or James for treatment?

You’re very lucky to be living in the same country as electrologists like them!

If I had the money, I would fly over every 6-8 weeks for such treatment.

In my office today is a client who travels from a great distance every 6 to 8 weeks and must keep a passport handy, who had just under 30,000 hairs removed in the amount of time you have been working on your journey. How much skin would you have bared with 30,000 hairs removed from your treatment areas?

That probeholder I sent should arrive by 12 noon today. Let me know if it doesn’t or a refund will be in order.

It seems to me that James and Dee are the only electrologists in the U.S. who can work as fast and with as good results as they say, and if not, the numbers must be very low. Readers on this forum going to their local electrologists should not expect as may hairs removed per hour, or to be done within 9-12 months even with regular clearances.

If I had the money to fly that far that often, it would have been a good idea to do so. Maybe I would have ended up spending the same amount in the end. But the bad thing about electrolysis is that you don’t know what kind of results you are getting until a year in.

I’ll speak for myself. I am not that special or rare. There are many modern electrologists quietly working away in their offices and there are others coming on board daily who take advantage of the best tools, modes and techniques offered for electrolysis care today. Time-wise, most clients look pretty good and feel pretty hopeful by month six if all is done correctly,but they are not finished yet because of the hair growth cycles unique to humankind as opposed to rats. Some will be 90-95% finished by one year and some will need 18 to 24 months to pretty much say that they are “finished”. The quotation marks mean we cannot stop any future growth that occurs, especially on a woman’s face where hormonal havoc is the rule. The wide range of 9-18? to 24? months depends on a number of if’s that I have listed many, many times.

Believe me, it is hard to say what is possible over and over again and know that people beyond my computer screen are not getting what is possible within a certain general time frame that leaves their skin looking as if no hair ever grew there.

Candela, I do feel your frustration, but I am not privy to information about your treatments.

StoppIt, our country is bigger than entire Europe. Flying to see James or Dee from California, for example, would be like flying to NYC for you. It’s not that quick, close, or cheap! James is actually much closer to Canada than most of the US since he’s right by the border and about 2 hours from Toronto. In fact, it would be the same for you to fly to see James from London! :slight_smile:

Candela, what happened with your eyebrows? I see that you finished treatments there in Nov 2009. Does that mean you results on that area?

Lol yes. But In the UK, we don’t even have electrologists that come close. It does come down to money though, whether flying from here or within the country.

I’m sure both James and Dee can recommend electrologists close to the west coast too.

I will go on record as saying that there are people who are even faster than me. I know, because I trained one of them, and was taught by someone who is/was faster than me.

(Thanks Dee, the delivery arrived with just 15 minutes left on the freebie clock, just like a Domino’s Pizza)

LAgirl, I stopped treatments because my electrologist ignored my instructions and mishaped my eyebrows.

Are your eyebrows filling in, Candela?

Dee

Hello there again,
Electrolysis still going grand. Have had 4 hours now I think, mostly galvanic if that’s the term, the one that’s not thermolysis. Progress is slow but I wasn’t expecting miracles so I’m happy enough! I was wondering if one of the experts :slight_smile: would be so kind as to describe exactly what you should feel and what you should see being done during electrolysis. It’s not really that I think anything is going wrong but it would put my mind at ease a tiny bit if I knew exactly what was going on. How long is the probe supposed to remain in the follicle? Should you definitely feel a twinge of pain every time? What is the electrologist doing when they are squeezing the skin in some areas? Are they trying to get the bulb/ root of the hair out? Is it alright to bleach the hair between treatments?

I think I’m a tiny bit frustrated (though very committed!).
F

You should feel a slight sting and the hair should slide out without resistance. The only thing I would be worried about is that the hair is not being plucked, but slides out without much resistance.

There is also blend besides thermolysis and galvanic.

Hello, I haven’t posted here for a while and thought I would post an update of my progress. I was away for the summer and this interfered with my electrolysis schedule. When I got home I realised that the electrolysis was progressing very slowly and I decided to try out a couple of other electrolgists.

I have now begun microflash thermolysis and am really really happy with the results. Where before I was having a few centimeters of hair cleared in a session, I am now having huge areas cleared and will reach full clearance by (hopefully) next week. This would have taken me a huge amount of time with the last woman, although she was very nice.

I’m really happy about this. She is using an Apilus junior and I just can’t believe how many hairs are removed in a session. I’d be happy to give anyone her details if you pm me, finding a good electrologist in Ireland has been a challenge.