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#31495 - 03/22/06 09:17 AM Proper usage of Uniprobe Lite
Anthony1 Offline


Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 3
I just bought a Uniprobe Lite (Slow Thermolysis) and can't seem to find anyplace on the net to assist me in using this device. The unit came with one piece of paper basically describing how to set up the machine. It did not include any information on how to properly set the correct treatment levels.

I really didn't want to hurt myself so I started out on the lowest setting. I gradualy increased the settings untill I started to feel something. I didn't really seem to have a problem inserting the probe. How do I know what the correct dept to insert the probe is? Do I just guess how deep the root is in that area and try to get the end of the probe to that level? In some areas the probe can go in all the way without stopping. Now I know for a fact that the root of my hair isn't that deep. How many zaps should it take per hair with this machine?


First I tried tweezing a hair to see how much resistance I would feel if untreated. Next I tried treating hair on what I thought was a low setting and not much happened. I felt a small amount of heat but that was about it. The hair seemed to come out a little easier then normal tweezing but nowhere near not lifting my skin at all. I tried gradually increasing the setting some more and was able to get it to a point where the hair and bulb looked singed and darker then normal. The hair definatly came out easier then normal tweezing but I still did have to tug a little to get it moving. I then increased the settings once again and my skin seemed lets say boil and I could hear a very faint poping noise. The hair still didn't just slide out without having to tug at all. I would think this would be over treating but I may be wrong. This leaves the biggest mark and the next day my skin in that spot seems to wheep a little. It won't leave a scar or anything but I have read in some post that some scabbing is normal. Oh and I think I relized that if I insert the probe to little it just burns the surface of my skin.

If there is a book or website that can answer my questions about this type of machine or similar method I would be more then happy to read up on it.

I know I asked alot of questions but I think you can see where I am going with this. My problem is I don't have any way of knowing what should happen when it is done right.

Please help,
Anthony.

PS. The reason I am doing this myself is becasue I have had about 10 laser treatments to my face becasue I am extreamly prone to ingrown hairs. The laser can't seem to treat certain parts of my face like my chin and upper lip and around my mouth. Ironically the area that shaving is the worst. Now After all these laser treatments I look like a tiger or lets say a marble cake. I could keep going with laser but every time I do it I get my hopes up that the stripes will go away. I'm not getting stripes in new areas but its the same ones that don't seem to get fixed. I did switch doctors on 2 occasions. My hopes are that with electrolysis I can get myself looking back to normal. I don't have to do my entire face just the spots the laser missed. Also laser makes me break out bad do to the fact I have all these singed hairs under my skin and must wait for them to grow out. Treating the hair and removing it at the same time seems much more appealing to me. I have alread spent a few grand.

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#31496 - 03/22/06 05:15 PM Re: Proper usage of Uniprobe Lite
dfahey Offline

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We should take a lesson from our dear little monkey friends. Yes, I'm talking about actual monkeys. They help each other out by sitting together for hours picking fleas out of the furry places that a monkey as an individual can't reach or see for herself.

If you want to learn to do electroloysis yourself on your body, that's fine and noble, but doing facial electrolysis on your chin and lip is very risky as far as complications such as scarring is concerned.

You sound like you are approaching this well by starting low and working up to a higher intensity/timing point where the hair releases fairly well, but watch the skins surface so you don't overtreat. Your insertions must be accurate. If you do a depth gauge by grasping the hair with the tweezers right where the hair meets the skin, then pull out the hair, you will see how deep you have to go under the skin. Eyeball that part you grasped to where the hair ends at "the bulb". That's how deep you need to go.

That's why people go to electrolysis school or do an apprenticeship with an experienced electrologist so they can learn hands on what a book can't always teach you.

These pleas for help often come after LASER is performed for some individuals that have spent a fortune. That marble cake analogy really got me laughing, but in all seriousness, I do feel for you and your spotty problem, Athony1.

Get Michael Bono's book, "The Blend" for further help, but it would be of great benefit to not do this area yourself.

Dee
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#31497 - 03/22/06 08:49 PM Re: Proper usage of Uniprobe Lite
Anthony1 Offline


Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 3
Thanks for the reply. I am going to try and buy that book from Amazon today. I didn't think I actually wanted to see my skin bubble at the opening of the pore. I am also happy to hear that I was correct about only inserting the probe up to the hair root. I read all this stuff about the probes being blunt as to not pierce the skin so it makes you assume you want them to go in as far as they can. Now all I have to do is find the proper setting that makes the hair release with minimal effort while leaving the surface of my skin intact.

For me if a hair is untreated I feel a pinch if I try and tweeze it. When I think it is properly treated I feel less resistance but that pinching feeling is gone 100%. I read somewhere that you shouldn't see the surface of you skin lifting when you tweeze the hair. For me to do that I would probably end up burning a hole in my skin. Either way I think I'm getting there. Thanks for your help.

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#31498 - 03/23/06 10:28 AM Re: Proper usage of Uniprobe Lite
sparx Offline
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Registered: 02/15/06
Posts: 71
I think you should see this more like climbing a hill

like most new to DIY - especially when you see how daunting the task is - you are wanting to get up the hill quick treat a hair once and then - I WILL NEVER HAVE TO TREAT THAT ONE AGAIN - the trouble is this is often what leads to overtreament and potential scaring and yes pros make the same mistake usually because their client wants to see some progress for their money - then complain that they have 'hardly done anything'

slow thermolysis takes a moment so timing is important unless you machine is flash or has a timer built in that cuts the current automatically - so a get loudly ticking old fashioned clock is advisable

i think youd be better with the softly softly catchy monkey analogy

(as we are talking about monkeys :P)
see my assistant hes a very good impressionist :xP

walk up the hill slowly stop take a look at the view maybe even go back down a mile and pick a flower then walk back up again - enjoy the hill breath the air take your time - if you rush you could trip and fracture your skull - or run out of food because you have not prepared beforehand - not enough needles - poor hygiene routines and so on - no clock.

half way up you may slip and slid back down a 100 ft and think 'dammit' i was here a week ago now i have to do that all over again tut do you climb or give up

this is just like life nothing comes easy - so go easy - expect some regrowth - and then treat lightly again - remember compared to say a laser (even this slow set up - you own the machine remember so time and money is now no longer an issue)relies on pigment to carry temperature a bit like wearing black tshirt in the hot sun or solar panels on your house - you are eliminating all the variables when using a needle as the hair irrelevant as the needle is sitting right on the bulb - when you tweeze a regular untreated hair just look how small that is and put your needle next to it - it slowly dawns on you that this great big machine and handset and needle and heat - and there is this tiny little dot - softly softly catchy monkey

if you get regrowth - so what - wait a few weeks and zap it again

don't worry be happy - eeeeeeeeeasyeeeeeee mon

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#31499 - 03/23/06 06:44 PM Re: Proper usage of Uniprobe Lite
Anthony1 Offline


Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 3
Oh I know that there will be regrowth and fully understand that not all hairs are in the active growing cycle. I am just worried that the hairs are not being treated at all and had the potential to be treated. Personally I would be happier if less hairs were getting treated so the side effects aren't as bad. My machine does have a time that you must set. I believe it has something like 8 levels of intensity and can be set to do up to 4 second pulses. I'm at work right now so I can't really check. I'm sure you get the basic idea though. I was just wondering if more then one pulse is required with this type of machine because even 4 seconds doesn't seem slow to me. I did try treating a few hairs and a day later the ones that I tried on a higher setting seem to be weeping. I read on some websites that this is normal and should stop in a few days. Its been about 3 days now and the test spots on my hand are just about gone. I now only have what looks like tiny pin pricks. They are very very small scabbes and will go away soon. I think the spots that are the worst were due to underinsertion of the probe. I will not make that mistake in the future. Thanks.

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#31500 - 03/24/06 10:45 AM Re: Proper usage of Uniprobe Lite
sparx Offline
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Registered: 02/15/06
Posts: 71
unless you have been doing this for years pricking and needle sticking - where you think you are going down the follicle then realise you aint and with draw the needle and tiny spot of blood appears

this is not at all serious and apart from a lot of little red pimples - do not scratch them - or scrub them that can cause scars - then just let them fade slowly

they do fade - a little weeping is not serious really either - sweat glands can be triggered and if you work close to a bright halogen lamp it can all get very hot - just let the body heal for a week or leave that are alone for a while until any redness fades

using heat is going to cause redness - its almost unavoidable - its heat after all - but this is still IMHO safer than galvanic as there is no lye being formed that can sit in the follicle after your with draw the needle - zap - done withdraw tug still well secured slide the needle back in zap again tug dammit its still solid zap - and out it comes - remember though some bulbs are big and can be 'cooked' yet not release so just be aware of that

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#124552 - 08/23/17 10:44 PM Re: Proper usage of Uniprobe Lite [Re: Anthony1]
CarlyH Offline
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Registered: 06/03/17
Posts: 2
What do you mean by this; "remember though some bulbs are big and can be 'cooked' yet not release so just be aware of that "

and what are you supposed to do about it. Thanks.

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