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#105847 - 04/02/13 03:08 AM Re: Scars from electrolysis....advice? [Re: prettysure]
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this one looks fabulous btw, has the vitamin A derivitive, vitamin E AND vitamin C. (this brand makes very good stuff).

http://www.makeupartistschoice.com/products/AAA_Cream_Powerful_Antioxidant_Cream-324-0.html

it's only 3gms for $15, which is expensive, but they have 30% off codes all the time, and you could get 2. Only need to be used on the area.

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#105853 - 04/02/13 04:07 PM Re: Scars from electrolysis....advice? [Re: prettysure]
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I use Retin A, and I would recommend that for skin issues of this kind. I had a few pitted areas and bits of skin damage, and the Retin A is really making a difference. That, along with alpha hydroxy acids, is the only thing clinically proven to make a real difference.

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#105856 - 04/02/13 05:26 PM Re: Scars from electrolysis....advice? [Re: WeRNotAfraid]
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http://www.dermstore.com/product_Retinol+Plus+Smoothing+Serum+10X_6932.htm

This is also a great product. There are a few different strengths, the 10x is the most expensive as it has the highest concentration of retinol in it. I'm currently using this product and so far it's working great.

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#123734 - 04/05/17 04:53 PM Re: Scars from electrolysis....advice? [Re: Michk]
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Michk,

I know its been 4 years since you last posted this post! I was wondering how the scars are doing & if its healed?

I am in a similar situation

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#123744 - 04/08/17 03:11 AM Re: Scars from electrolysis....advice? [Re: Michk]
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Have you tried using chemical peels?

We just wrote about electrolysis scarring on our blog.
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#123745 - 04/08/17 10:59 AM Re: Scars from electrolysis....advice? [Re: Michk]
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Very nice “blog” indeed. I would only correct one statement … this one: “Apply a chemical peel to dissolve the top layer of skin that’s scarred only superficially from electrolysis.”

The “top layer” of the skin would be the epidermis … and, the epidermis does not and cannot form scar tissue. A scar is collagen: there is no collagen (or blood) in the epidermis.

So, “where are the scars?” Scar exist (only) in the dermis. The chemical peel that dissolves the epidermis is primarily meant to start-up the collagen-turnover process in the dermis. All the other procedures you mention also initiate collagen production by causing inflammation and this can, in most cases, reduce the appearance of scar tissue (in the dermis).

I only mention this, because for decades electrologists say, “Oh my, don’t scar the epidermis … “, when, in fact, visible scars form in the upper “reticular dermis.” People who are doing telangiectasia removal always coagulate the epidermis and always see that it’s impossible to cause a scar from this superficial treatment: impossible!

Furthermore, many electrologists (and clients) “freak-out” when they see inflammation. However, it’s the process of inflammation that causes your skin to HEAL: it’s a good thing!

I like your blog ... thanks!

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#123746 - 04/08/17 06:56 PM Re: Scars from electrolysis....advice? [Re: Michk]
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Michael I remember some discussion where someone was concerned about scarring on genital area and there was an explanation that genital skin does not show scarring because skin down there does not have the top layer of epidermis. Was that an accurate explanation?

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#123747 - 04/08/17 08:01 PM Re: Scars from electrolysis....advice? [Re: Michk]
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No, not an accurate explanation.

Everything in-and-on the body is covered with "epidermis" (different name internally: epithelium). If you didn't have epidermis, you would bleed out.

The "pee pee" doesn't scar (well, almost never) because the dermis is microscopically thin. (Also the "top layer" of the epidermis would be the outer "dead layer" of cells.) All layers are present on the "schnitzel."

The epidermis cannot scar. It can only grow-over scars that are in the dermis. Maybe that's where the confusion comes in?

Surgeons (dermabrasion) remove the entire epidermis and a lot of the vascular and reticular dermis (a bloody mess, metal brush ... I scrubbed-in, YUCK!) ... and like a miracle the entire epidermis grows back (with a somewhat thinner dermis).

The epidermis grows back from the few epidermal cells remaining in hair follicles and other skin structures (sweat glands and oil glands). It's really a miracle (if a non-believer can use that term. The cells in the remnant follicle migrate out on the skin's surface ... join up and re-create the entire new epidermis. AWESOME! How do those cells know to do that? Yeah, a miracle.


Edited by Michael Bono (04/08/17 08:03 PM)

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#123754 - 04/09/17 12:39 PM Re: Scars from electrolysis....advice? [Re: Michk]
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@AmyStanton37 no, I haven't tried Chemical Peels. I am a bit scared of them as I wonder if they thin the skin? I am going to try micro needling instead

@Michael Bono great explanation on “Apply a chemical peel to dissolve the top layer of skin that’s scarred only superficially from electrolysis.” - Makes total sense!

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