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#123673 - 03/27/17 12:35 PM Re: PCOS-Hirsuitism and its cocktail [Re: MamaBear]
MamaBear Offline
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Registered: 06/17/16
Posts: 15
Loc: Pa, USA
thanks Dowager !!

did not know that a dermatologist can prescribe it, all PCOS forums mentions it was either from an endocrinologist or Gynecologist

I did check out 'My Stuff' after I spent sometime on the screen

Good to know I have this dermatologist option, I will start looking out for one who is in-network

will keep you posted with our case as I have some info, even if it can help a single person with valuable information it means a lot to me

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#123709 - 04/01/17 05:50 PM Re: PCOS-Hirsuitism and its cocktail [Re: MamaBear]
MamaBear Offline
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Registered: 06/17/16
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Loc: Pa, USA
Hi Dowager

My daughter does not have any acne or oily skin. She did have acne on her back but is not there anymore except for acne scars

Apart from waiting for the next blood work results in another 4 weeks,looking out to take doctor appointments

Do you think I can approach a dermatologist for spironalctone ? or after checking upon her and says I don't see any skin issue may not prescribe it

going to doctor as new patient will be a long wait with specialists

or should I go to a OB\GYN (or any other specialist u know we can go) and ask for spironalactone without BCP

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#123714 - 04/02/17 08:04 AM Re: PCOS-Hirsuitism and its cocktail [Re: MamaBear]
The Dowager Offline
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Registered: 04/23/16
Posts: 9
Hi MB:
I know that waiting for a first appointment with a specialist can be
frustrating. I suppose it would be faster to ask one of your daughter's doctors
for a prescription and explain that you're against 'bcp.' As she's still a minor,
they really should respect your wishes.

In one of your earlier posts, you said your electrologist was ready to give up on your daughter unless she sought medical intervention. IMHO, that should be
enough to satisfy a dermatologist as they deal with hair (loss,etc.) issues.

A dermatologist can prescribe a topical cream called "Vaniqa" which is supposed
to deter hair growth. It is very expensive and I am not convinced it works!

Make copies of all lab reports so that you can show them to the doctors you see.

Please remember that I have NO medical credentials; I'm just someone who's been dealing with this for a very long time.

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#123717 - 04/02/17 08:54 PM Re: PCOS-Hirsuitism and its cocktail [Re: The Dowager]
MamaBear Offline
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Loc: Pa, USA
Hi Dowager..

She turned 18 last November and we have not seen a doctor for over 18 years yet, she was with a pediatric until now
so, that is added to the mix now

Will try my luck calling all doctors and see. I need to get started

Will not hold you responsible for anything and thanks for time !!

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#123719 - 04/04/17 09:42 AM Re: PCOS-Hirsuitism and its cocktail [Re: MamaBear]
The Dowager Offline
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Registered: 04/23/16
Posts: 9
Hi MB:
If you decide to see a dermatologist, be aware that he/she may try to sell you
other services: peels, fillers, botox and in your case, laser treatments.

I recommend that you stand your ground and refuse such "cash cows" for the
doctor.

He/she may be unaware of laser-induced paradoxical hair growth.
My own electrologist treats a young woman who was a victim (of such), sued the
laser company and won!

In my experience, endocrinologists are smarter that ob/gyns.
Endos need to know more medicine whereas ob/gyns just love to push BCP.

Good luck and please post updates.

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#123743 - 04/07/17 08:34 PM Re: PCOS-Hirsuitism and its cocktail [Re: MamaBear]
MamaBear Offline
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Hi Dowager,

sent u a PM, can u please check out

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#124112 - 06/01/17 06:27 PM Re: PCOS-Hirsuitism and its cocktail [Re: MamaBear]
MamaBear Offline
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Registered: 06/17/16
Posts: 15
Loc: Pa, USA
Hi all,

if this helps anyone, got bloodwork for my daughter done after natural supplements.

Dec 2016 May 2017
Total Testosterone:56 Total Testosterone :48
Free Testosterone: 7.4 Free Testosterone :4.7
Hemaglob A1c :5.7 Hemaglob A1c :5.3
Vit D: 32 Vit D: 40


supplements were
Saw Palmetto,berberine,hypericum,iodine drop daily,NAC,MGCitrate,fish oil etc




Edited by MamaBear (06/01/17 06:43 PM)

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#124113 - 06/01/17 06:44 PM Re: PCOS-Hirsuitism and its cocktail [Re: MamaBear]
MamaBear Offline
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hi Dowager,

sent you a PM

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#124122 - 06/06/17 01:40 AM Re: PCOS-Hirsuitism and its cocktail [Re: MamaBear]
EllieG Offline
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Registered: 09/13/16
Posts: 9
MamaBear kudos to you for being so proactive about this, I struggled for years with excess facial hair growth, keeping it a secret only to discover that my Mum and sister had the same problem.

Maybe you already know about this but I didn't see it listed in your list of supplements. Have you tried to get your daughter to drink a few cups of spearmint tea every day, a friend of mine recently told me that it really helped her PCOS and I've been really enjoying a cup or two a day since. I can't speak to its effects on hirsuitism as I've had a lot of electrolysis but maybe give it a try if you aren't already

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19585478
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17310494?dopt=AbstractPlus
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6376599.stm

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#124123 - 06/06/17 08:53 AM Re: PCOS-Hirsuitism and its cocktail [Re: MamaBear]
Iluv2zap Offline
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Registered: 11/19/14
Posts: 1060
Spearmint is a mild antiandrogen, and so can serve to reduce the Di-hydra-testosterone in the body which can cause new hair growth. Reducing Testosterone though only stops new hairs from forming, and spearmint is a very WEAK antiandrogen so dont expect much, and dont expect anything much at all from its use on hair that is already growing. Once the follicle has started to produce growth phase hairs, the damage is already done and must be removed with electrolysis.

Edit: the study I looked at about this appeared much more optomistic than I've made it out to be, stating the the length of the study was too short to see the full effect. They did report that the patient perception was it was much more effective and that the patients were noticeing a reduction in the self-reported degree of hirsutism but unfortunately not with the objectively rated score. Hormone levels were significantly affected.

Seana


Edited by Iluv2zap (06/06/17 11:16 AM)
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Seana Richmond
Certified Electrologist.
Electrolysis By Seana
http://electrolysisbyseana.com

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